My take on who would win before doing this piece was that I thought Goku and Kakashi would win hands down. But then I threw the question at some other people and asked them why they thought that way. One said that superman would win because he's able to push planets. Thinking back on Goku, when has he ever moved a planet? Sure he's able to blow one up, but move it?
That's something to think about there. And then there's Batman, he's a thinker, lets get that straight, he's actually been able to take down superman for that very reason. Everyone has a weakness that can be exploited, even Kakashi. He has a limited amount of chakra, making him waste some might help, Though honestly I still would think Kakashi would win, but I wouldn't count Bats out really.
So what's your take on this whole concept. Who would win and give some good reason.
What gives one of these characters the edge, or rather positives that would favor them?
Besides the poor Batman wouldn't even stand a chance against Kakashi.
Kakashi beats Batman.
I honestly gave up on thinking like that, not because that there won't ever be a legitimate winner (there actually can be one), but mainly because it's just as much fun (if, not more fun) enjoying the fight itself, rather than arguing (I know: speculation can be fun, but still.....).
Most of the time, fights like these never reach any real conclusion (the characters involved are interrupted by an even great threat to them/humans/earth or something along those lines).
Anyway, awesome piece of artwork! I've never seen all of these characters depicted like this together! Good job coloring it!
For Batman vs Kakashi it all depends on if this is their first fight or prep time because usually Batman loses his first fight but studies up on his opponent and formulates a plan of attack so if its a first fight then Kakashi, if its a prep time fight then Batman.
But that's just a logical way to look at it. As much as I like Bats, Superman and Kakashi, Goku's strength has not been determined yet and who's to say Goku can't reach SSJ5 - onwards?
goku because it takes him less than 5 seconds to go super saiyan. Also because he beat up frieza and frieza could destroy a planet in his first form. Goku could just ga SSJ4 and dominate superman. But this wouldn't happen because there both nice and are good.
Kakashi vs batman
Kakashi would just use his sharingan and send some hounds to rip batman to shreds. But this would never happen because batman would probably want to see him fight and vice versa. They would also probably be friends.
But again this is my opinion.
Screw Attack also said Goku couldn't teleport easily, but that's a lie too. They used Kid Buu blowing up the earth and Goku failing to teleport as an example of that, but Goku was trying to get to Supreme Kai who lives in a dimension far away outside the cosmos sphere which takes longer and is harder to do. Furthermore Goku was freaking out his sons were about to die and the world was about to end. Goku has teleported in battle before many times fighting Buu, Cell, rescuing Piccolo and Tien from Cell, and even in Battle of gods against Birusu. As for Superman destroying a solar system, that was Pre Crisis Superman and he did it after magic dust gave him the power to. Superman fans take everything of context. Superman does have limits too. He almost died before from absorbing too much solar energy at once in All Star Superman when he rescued a scientist's spaceship from falling into the sun.
THE TRUTH ABOUT GOKU'S 40 TONS
It’s worth pointing out that it basically says the reason Goku’s weight training in Heaven was so effective was that he used Bukujutsu to float in midair as he used the weights, which made it much harder. It also says his image training/meditation was a means to raise his maximum ki, as muscle training has a limit. Toriyama mentioned there being limits to how much training your muscles could do and needing ki to overcome that limit in the book’s interview.
Some things of interest is that it describes Gohan’s training as being based mostly on strengthening and learning to control his ki, while Vegeta’s training is described as training his muscles to the limit. And as a result of Vegeta’s training, it says he awakened to Super Saiyan 2, so that’s another data point in that debate (Daizenshuu 7 also says Vegeta acquired Super Saiyan 2 through training). www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1…
What I really want to talk about is the 40 tons feat. It's a low end feat. Goku has done MUCH more impressive feats than that in Dragon Ball (www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?… & www.narutoforums.com/showpost.… And then a few in DBZ(www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?… this to get the strngth feat www.convertunits.com/from/mega… & (z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/214/26… & (static.comicvine.com/uploads/o… was claced to be 13.87 kilotons wich converted into 13,870 metric tons)
Awesome pic by the way
In the 40 ton scene, we see Goku training with weights (I forget the exact weight) before King Kai suggests that Goku's weights should be made heavier. This of course surprises Goku who mentions he's not sure if he can lift that much and then bam they get changed and he struggles for a bit before turning Super Saiyan and they become light as a feather.
There are one thing people forget about Goku and one of them is that Saiyans over all, train for long periods of time without rest and they push themselves past their limitations to acquire new levels of strength. People tend to jump at the conclusion that Goku couldn't lift 40 tons therefore he's not as strong as Superman but if I'm not mistaken wasn't King Kai's planet gravity 10x that of Earth's? If I'm right, then that means he was essentially lifting 400 tons on each limb (not bench pressing them, but lifting them up at the end of his limbs which is heavier than bench pressing) for who know how long (sometimes Saiyan's training can be so vigorous and intense that they can go hours or days without rest... need prove? Look at kid trunks, at the age of 11 he was doing push ups with one finger up all the way into the 900's as well as other saiyan training such as Goku and Gohan's HTC training) so it would make sense why Goku struggled.
If your comfortable a certain weight limit that you've been training with (for days) and suddenly someone comes along and increases your weights without taking some time off to relax, then your obviously going to get tired and struggle for a bit until you use more strength and that is exactly what Goku did. People seem to downplay Goku's strength simply because he struggled momentarily but I don't see how this matters? The guy was tired and powered up and used his strength (whether it was via Super Saiyan transformation or not) he still lifted those weights, so I don't see how that makes him any weaker.
Keep in mind how absurd it is to say Goku can't lift more than 40 tons after Frieza saga when the guy pushed a giant piccolo effortlessly while being crush under his foot (and injured), moved a giant stone while he was a kid which was easily more than a couple of tons and nearly caught a mountain (if you count anime) that was thrown with telekinesis by Frieza.
There is more examples of Goku's immense strength that I can't think of at the top of my head right now that show that Goku is indeed way past 40 tons or 400 tons for that matter, just that in DBZ, it's all about the fighting and martial arts and less about showing impressive feats which is why people instantly assume Goku is weaker than Superman due to lack of feats.
Anyway you guys are free to disagree, I just thought I'd drop by and point out a few things. For the record I am not a DBZ fanboy (in fact Super Perfect Cell is the only character I like from the show and that's cuz he's my favorite fictional character due to his powers and abilities which are awesome) so if there's any DC fans here, don't go on a riot, flaming and name calling over this post. I'm not downplaying Superman, I personally think his powers are indeed impressive and he's definitely one of the top dogs in heavy hitting but against Goku my opinion is that he would lose (but that's just me)
[My reasoning is in that novel I wrote in the previous message lol]
Superman is an alien who uses his powers for good using solar energy to power himself up and have super strength, the closer he is to the sun, the higher his strength and over all abilities increase right? Yeah well if we look at Super Perfect Cell, the guy was already a Solar System buster (and I don't mean "hit the sun and cause a supernova", I mean he had enough energy to destroy the entire solar system according to the DBZ guide which is cannon) which means Cell alone has more power that he can generate and use for strength/speed/durability ect than anything Superman can do.
Yes I am fully aware the the physics and reality of both universes are different but regardless of how you look at it, the energy output is the same: Superman can generate immense level of solar energy but Cell can generate enough energy to wipe out an entire solar system (and lets be honest...that's a ****-ton of energy!). Now I'm sure people are going to bring up that SPC never preformed that feat therefore it was a hyperbole but that's incorrect as it was stated in the manga,anime and guidebook which are cannon (except for anime) and the reason he didn't preform this feat is because the circumstances didn't require it. By the time Super Perfect Cell came around, the writers were ready to take out Cell with a bang via the kamehameha beam struggle which means if they allowed Cell to destroy the entire solar system then two things would have happened:
1) all the character's efforts would have been in vain and the show would have ended there
2) If they didn't die from the destruction of the solar system, the authors would have to come up with some explanation as to how all the Z fighters survived and the story would have to be expanded.
So where am I going with this.. well if Cell was capable of generating that much power in his Super Perfect Form, Goku would would have 4 times that power in his SS3 form which ultimately means Goku would have the power to destroy 4 entire solar systems (stars included) while Superman would only have enough power from one star ... as you can see Goku would wipe the floor with Superman.
Of course people require feats but let me say this: You guys are expecting feats from a character who was on a show/manga compared to a character that's been around longer than 50 years who constantly has different writers... not really a fair match up unless you stick to one writer vs one writer then it would make more sense. Aside from using Superman 1 million and pre-crisis Superman, Goku wins easily.
As for batman and kakashi, I really don't watch naruto so I don't know who will win. All I can say is that whoever have powers and can fight, will win. Batman doesn't have powers so he can easily be defected by someone who have powers because all he have is weapon gadgets and fighting skills. Just think of batman as a ninja with some cool a$$ weapons.
1: "Goku is still human" Goku is not Human, he is a saiyan!!
2: "Goku needs lots, I mean lots of time to charge up his powers and he gets tired after fighting using too much powers. Just look at all of his fight scenes, takes like 10 episodes to finish a fight that should of been 10 mins long."
Ah... bitch please, it takes that long because it's all in super slow-motion so we don't end up blinking and missing it all.
3: "Goku needs oxygen and a planet to survive" That's actually wrong, in the early chapters of Dragon Ball, Goku goes to the Moon and back without any need of oxygen support.
And really, saiyans also have unlimited power if people just stop and think about it, every time a saiyan gets beaten to near death and comes back, his power increases, so Goku could just keep doing that over and over.
I think superman is going to win because his abilities activate instantly,like the ice breath or the superbreath or the laser,so if their strengh is (in goku's final form) the same,superman has the advantage.
Batman doesn't have any powers so i think kakashi is going to underestimate him and not use his sharingun,batman is going to be beaten and while on the ground he is going to press the detonator of the bombs around kakashi,or throw him an electrofied bat ,to take him down.Batman is going to win because of the element of suprise.
It would be badass.
Kakashi would have too much fun messing with Batman for there to be a serious fight.
But if I had to choose, Goku, because he would somehow find a way to make a kryptonite bomb. I have no idea about the last one.
"batmans weapons are just too basic... OR AT LEAST IN THIS KINDA FIGHT..."
really! kakashi is just to fast for batman..in every way and im sure kakashi could get batman with a lightning clone...
My personal opinion is that they keep tagging out and swapping back and forth and nobody really gets anywhere. The Lex Luthor teams up with Broly and things just get weird. Eventually Darkseid is revealed to have been the mastermind when he sews a demon catfish into one of his minions and they must team up to fight the robot demon catfish god alien.
Status of brawl still unresolved by the ending.